“The whole thing was prejudiced from the beginning; it was all backward. They look at us like we were created to serve at the leisure and pleasure of the commission and I dispute that. It was the people that put us in there. They wanted an independent voice.”
“If we have something experimental, nonstandard, and we say, 'Well, it should work' and I'm going to spend $30 million of their (taxpayer's) dollars? No, I can't do that.”